22 November 2015

Progressive liberalism is the enemy of tolerance

Multicultural liberals are always trying to police debate. A tolerant society does not abandon the freedom to argue.

.... Against traditional liberalism stands multicultural liberalism, which the majority of people who call themselves “progressives” believe. An unimprovable example of how it turns old certainties on their heads came two days before the Paris massacres. The Muslim Council of Britain demanded a blasphemy law because “Muslim communities need to be able to respond to accusations [against] Muslims, or against the Prophet, in a more effective way”.

.... Fear has driven multicultural liberalism, too, and that fear will be back with a vengeance after Paris, along with the double standards and demands for new authoritarian laws that always accompany it.

Progressives condemn “clash of civilisations” rhetoric and deplore the racism of Marine Le Pen and Donald Trump. But their attempts at appeasement show that they are not so different. They also treat Muslims as “the other” rather than fellow citizens and insist that different rules must apply to them in case they turn violent.

I have no idea whether traditional liberal principles will help slow the wave of religious violence. For now, it seems as if nothing will. But I do know that if we don’t stick by them we will end up with an even more unjust society than we already have. [The Observer] Read more

21 November 2015

Mob torches factory in Pakistan following blasphemy accusation

An angry mob in Pakistan's Punjab province torched a factory after one of its employees was accused of committing blasphemy, police officials said on Saturday.

Hundreds of people surrounded a chipboard factory in Jehlum city on Friday night and set the facility ablaze after reports surfaced that one employee had allegedly desecrated the Koran.

"The incident took place after we arrested the head of security at the factory, Qamar Ahmed Tahir, for complaints that he ordered the burning of Korans," Adnan Malik, a senior police official in the area, told AFP.

Blasphemy is a hugely sensitive issue in Pakistan, an Islamic republic of some 200 million, where even unproven allegations frequently stir mob violence and lynchings.[AFP] Read more

France’s civil war — and the struggle facing Europe

France has the largest percentage of Muslims in its population of anywhere in western Europe. The bare truth is that this has created its problems

In the wake of the massacre in Paris, President François Hollande said that France was ‘at war’ — and that it must be fought both inside his country and outside in the Middle East. As the French air force began dropping bombs on Raqqa in Syria, another operation was under way in towns and cities across France: 168 raids in two days. A battle on two fronts has begun.

Chartres cathedral is one of the great monuments of western civilisation, but Chartres was also home to one of the Bataclan theatre suicide bombers. A man from the same area died last summer in Syria, fighting for Isis. In Lyon, theraids turned up a rocket launcher. On Tuesday night, a large-scale counter-terror assault was launched in St Denis in Paris. After heavy gunfire, a woman blew herself up by detonating a suicide belt, according to the police.

That the French police know where to look is heartening. That there are so many places to look is not. Long before this week’s slaughter, the French have known that large parts of France are effectively not French. [The Spectator] Read more

20 November 2015

Voters to Obama: Yes, We Are at War with Radical Islam

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 60% of Likely U.S. Voters believe the United States is at war with radical Islamic terrorism. Just 24% share the president’s position and disagree. Sixteen percent (16%) are undecided.

Even 56% of Democrats believe America is at war with radical Islamic terrorism, a view shared by 70% of Republicans and 54% of voters not affiliated with either major party.

A staggering 92% of all voters now regard radical Islamic terrorism as a serious threat to the United States. This includes 73% who say it is a Very Serious one, up 23 points from 50% in October of last year.

.... Sizable majorities across most demographic categories consider radical Islamic terrorism a Very Serious threat to the United States. The majority of voters in nearly all categories also believe the United States is at war with radical Islamic terrorism.

Sixty-five percent (65%) of Democrats agree with the president, though, that ISIS does not represent the true beliefs of Islam. Just 27% of Republicans and 44% of unaffiliated voters share that view.

The older the voter, the more likely he or she is to disagree with the president’s assessment of what ISIS stands for. [Rasmussen Reports] Read more

'Muslims feel oppressed' after Paris attacks

The President of Austria’s Islamic Religious Community has spoken about the consequences of the Paris terror attacks for Muslims and how frustrated he feels that Muslims have to constantly distance themselves from terrorists.

In an interview with Die Presse newspaper Fuat Sanaç was asked why Muslims are not taking to the streets en masse to distance themselves from the violent Islamic State (Isis) terrorist group. “Muslims feel so oppressed that they are afraid to take to the streets,” he answered.

“We have said thousands of times that these lunatics have nothing to do with Islam, but we have to constantly defend and justify ourselves - it’s exhausting and infuriating,” he added.

He went on to say that Muslims holding demonstrations against Isis would do nothing to solve the threat posed by the terrorists, which was a direct result of wars and dictatorships in the Middle East. [The Local] Read more

Saudi court sentences poet to death for renouncing Islam

A Palestinian poet and leading member of Saudi Arabia’s nascent contemporary art scene has been sentenced to death for renouncing Islam.

A Saudi court on Tuesday ordered the execution of Ashraf Fayadh, who has curated art shows in Jeddah and at the Venice Biennale. The poet, who said he did not have legal representation, was given 30 days to appeal against the ruling.

Fayadh, 35, a key member of the British-Saudi art organisation Edge of Arabia, was originally sentenced to four years in prison and 800 lashes by the general court in Abha, a city in the south-west of the ultraconservative kingdom, in May 2014.

But after his appeal was dismissed he was retried last month and a new panel of judges ruled that his repentance did not prevent his execution.

“I was really shocked but it was expected, though I didn’t do anything that deserves death,” Fayadh told the Guardian. [The Guardian] Read more

Saudi court sentences Palestinian poet to death for apostasy: HRW

A Saudi Arabian court has sentenced a Palestinian poet to death for apostasy, abandoning his Muslim faith, according to trial documents seen by Human Rights Watch, its Middle East researcher Adam Coogle said on Friday.

Ashraf Fayadh was detained by the country's religious police in 2013 in Abha, in southwest Saudi Arabia, and then rearrested and tried in early 2014.

The verdict of that court sentenced him to four years in prison and 800 lashes but after appeal another judge passed a death sentence on Fayadh three days ago, said Coogle.

"I have read the trial documents from the lower court verdict in 2014 and another one from 17 November. It is very clear he has been sentenced to death for apostasy," Coogle said.

Saudi Arabia's justice system is based on Sharia Islamic law and its judges are clerics from the kingdom's ultra conservative Wahhabi school of Sunni Islam. In the Wahhabi interpretation of Sharia, religious crimes including blasphemy and apostasy incur the death penalty. [Reuters] Read more

Terror attacks have everything to do with Islam

.... Muslim reformers who understand Islam has a major problem are now courageously speaking up for a religious reformation. It is crucial to support such people. Which is why the “nothing to do with Islam” mantra is so damaging. For if that were true, there would be no need for Islamic reform.

Radical Islam must be identified, confronted and defeated. That means treating as pariahs all those promoting it — the OIC, Saudi Arabia and Qatar, the Muslim Brotherhood, Iran, the Palestinians — unless they stop their incitement to hatred and mass murder and

their backing for holy war. Instead, the free world treats these people as regular statesmen and members of the world community to be negotiated with, traded with and appeased.

Unless the West finally tears off these blinkers, all the bombs it may rain down on Isis will not defeat this scourge. [The Times (£)] Read more

19 November 2015

ISIS Is Just One of a Full-Blown Global Jihadist Insurgency

.... Our political leaders have been restricting the definition of this problem to whichever jihadist group is causing them the biggest headache at the present time, while ignoring the fact that they are all borne of the same Islamist ideology.

Before ISIS emerged, the U.S. State Department strangely took to naming the problem “al Qaeda-inspired extremism,” even though it was not al Qaeda that inspired the radicalism. Rather, Islamist extremism inspired al Qaeda. And in turn, ISIS did not radicalize those 6,000 European Muslims who have traveled to join them, nor the thousands of supporters the French now say they are monitoring.

This did not happened overnight and could not have emerged from a vacuum. ISIS propaganda is good, but not that good. No, decades of Islamist propaganda in communities had already primed these young Muslims to yearn for a theocratic caliphate.

When surveyed, 33 percent of British Muslims expressed a desire to resurrect a caliphate. ISIS simply plucked the low-hanging fruit, which had been seeded long ago by various Islamist groups, and it will now require decades of community resilience to push back. But we cannot even begin to do so until we recognize the problem for what it is. Welcome to the full-blown global jihadist insurgency. [The Daily Beast] Read more

Pakistanis’ views on ISIS showcase worrying trend

In a recently released research by the Pew Research Center, out of 11 Muslim majority countries, Pakistan seems to be the only one where a majority offered no definite opinion of ISIS.

In 11 Muslim majority countries including Jordan, Malaysia, Indonesia and Lebanon, the majority held strong opinions against ISIS with a very small minority in some cases showing support for ISIS and similarly small numbers expressing no opinion about the militant group. However, in Pakistan, 62% of the individuals revealed that they did not hold a definite opinion about ISIS while 9% even showed support for the group.

There has been growing concern over the presence of ISIS in Pakistan, which has been aggravated by instances of locals showing support for the militant organization. Graffiti supporting ISIS has been seen in numerous cities of the country since the emergence of the group. [The Nation] Read more

62% Pakistanis lack definite opinion about IS: report

As disappointing as it may sound, majority of Pakistanis do not care to hold opinion about atrocities by Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), claims a survey by Pew Research Centre.

A survey conducted by the research centre shows that nine percent of Pakistanis think positive about the extremist group while 62 percent do not have a definite opinion over the self-proclaimed Islam endorsers. Among Muslim countries, Pakistan has the highest ‘confused’ ratio when it comes to IS.

The group that is responsible for some of the worst terror attacks in different parts of the world and takes pride in beheadings and innocent executions has only pushed opinions in Pakistan to as far as ‘unsure.’

The research was conducted in May and April as Pew research Centre’s annual global poll. [The Nation] Read more

Call for Islam to rid itself of obsolete dogmas

.... Nor do we have the luxury of time. Islamic reformation, like the Christian reformation, says Hasan, needs centuries to accomplish. I fear that not much of Islam will be left, in the next few decades, if the Wahhabis, Salafis and the death cults continue on their present course.

What we need to do is evident. We need to reformulate the Sharia according to its original objectives of justice, egalitarianism, human rights and freedom. This can be done reasonably quickly — as we saw in Morocco, where the personal aspects of the Sharia, the “New Mudawwanah” code, was updated within a decade.

We need to ditch dangerously obsolete and manufactured dogmas about gender relations, “Islamic state”, apostasy, and other similar issues. We should bring back the rationalist school of Islamic theology, which has been suppressed by the traditionalists for centuries.

The real hurdle is traditionalist Islam, represented today largely by Saudi Arabia and its supporters, East and West. Let’s begin by declaring Islamic orthodoxy null and void; and Saudi Arabia a deathly gruesome rogue state. [The Times (£)] Read more

Sadiq Khan: UK Muslims must do more to root out cancer of extremism

Sadiq Khan today called on his fellow Muslims not to “bury our heads in the sand” over the scale of extremism in the UK — and to do more to root out radicalisation.

Labour’s mayoral candidate said his community’s involvement was key, not because it was responsible for devastating attacks like in Paris but because it was uniquely placed to tackle the threat. In a highly personal intervention, he revealed his own “painful” experiences of extremism during his professional and political career, in his neighbourhood and the impact on his family.

“Extremism isn’t a theoretical risk,” he said. “Most British Muslims have come across someone with extremist views at some point.” It came as Muslim mothers in Britain were urged by a government minister to save their daughters from being lured into joining Islamic State. Baroness Sandip Verma said mothers must be “encouraged to understand and prevent extremism at home” to protect their children. [Evening Standard] Read more

Moment dad is attacked with pickaxe ‘for converting from Islam to Christianity’

A dad-of-six believes he was the subject of a brutal, unprovoked attack because he converted from Islam to Christianity.

The assault, which saw Bradford man Nissar Hussain repeatedly beaten with a pickaxe handle by hooded thugs, was caught on camera.

Hussain, 49, who suffered a shattered knee cap and a broken hand, is currently recovering in hospital.

His attackers were both wearing hooded tops and tracksuit bottoms and only stopped attacking him when neighbours heard the commotion and chased them off.

Trained nurse Hussain says he’s been living in fear for years, and thinks he was the victim of a calculated religious hate crime.

It’s not the first time Hussain and his family have been targeted. They have been attacked in the street, had eggs thrown at their house and had their car windows smashed. [Metro.co.uk] Read more

Islam is still rooted in the values of the dark ages – and until we accept that, we will never get rid of radicalism

.... Mr Khan, a Muslim born in London to Pakistani immigrants, is one of the very few politicians in mainstream politics who is brave enough to speak the truth about the ever growing issues facing Britain’s Muslim population.

.... As Mr Khan said: “Too many British Muslims grow up without really knowing anyone from a different background. We’ve protected people’s right to live their cultural life at the expense of creating a common life.”

Huge numbers of British Muslims are concentrated in distinct neighbourhoods, often living with, going to school with, working with, befriending and marrying only other Muslims. “This,” as Mr Khan so rightly pointed out, “creates the conditions for extremism and radicalisation to take hold.”

.... Islam, though, has never been through an enlightenment or a reformation and is still rooted in the values of the dark ages. That is why Islamic extremism has boomed at a time when the rest of the world is embracing the liberal, democratic values of the 21st century.

Sadiq Khan should be applauded for his courage in speaking the truth about segregation and radicalisation.

But until we all accept the truth about the roots of Islamic extremism, we won’t win the battle for hearts and minds – let alone the bloody war that awaits. [The Telegraph] Read more

Sadiq Khan: Muslims are growing up in this country without ever 'knowing anyone from a different background'

Mr Khan said: "Too many British Muslims grow up without really knowing anyone from a different background. Without understanding or empathising with the lives and beliefs of others."

The Tooting MP also said that too many British people have "never befriended a Muslim and as a result too many people have formed a single identity "too often based around their religion or ethnicity."

Speaking at a lunch for journalists, Labour's former shadow justice secretary said he believed British Muslims could be more effective at tackling extremism "than anyone else".

He said was British Muslims "role" to challenge extremist views and to insist that British values and Muslim values "are one and the same."

Adding: "To give the next generation of Muslim leaders the confidence to own the debate and defeat the extremists." [The Telegraph] Read more

We Muslims can’t wait for the next bomb before we speak out

.... There is no point in talking of human rights when it’s just your own human rights which concern you; there is no depth in talking of piety when your only concern is wearing the hijab; there is no traction in saying Islam is a religion of peace when the evidence for it is shrinking daily.

This dilemma cannot be resolved by politicians and policies; they have tried and failed. If anything the fact that we hear multiple terrorist plots have been foiled is not a sign of success but rather shows that the problem of violence is growing. Many will turn to their imams for guidance and many will cry out: “This is not my problem.” But it is. And to deny that is to be dishonest both to your country and to your faith. We cannot wait for the next bomb before we speak out. [628 comments]

[TOP RATED COMMENT 70 votes] I'm fed up with having to be PC about Muslims. their inability to integrate. I hate the way they wear hijabs or completely cover up showing just their eyes. I hate the way their women are treated. I hate the fact they do not take part and look inwards not outwards! I'm offended by Muslims and Islam! There I said it!

[2ND 43] I'm sick and tired of moderate Moslems. At least with the jihadists you know where they stand. The moderates however wriggle all over show, never telling us which bits of Islam they deplore. Thus they shake their head and tut tut this or that attack, but they never say how they're different? Gays, bikinis, Jews, Israel, Mohammad, etc etc, how do they stand when it comes to such? I don't trust them. [The Telegraph] Read more

The battle is on for Muslim hearts and minds

.... I had been invited to address a conference at the School of Oriental and African Studies on the question of Muslim integration. I was talking on the subject of free expression.

At one level it was a brave attempt by lay Muslims to get people of different beliefs to debate with Islamic scholars and academics. But, comparing notes with other guest speakers as well as my own experience, I soon realised that the secondary agenda, intended or not, was an attack on the whole idea of deradicalisation. It was apparently just another aspect of western prejudice against Muslims — the true cause of terrorism.

So Professor Christopher Bagley, a Muslim convert, said that calls for integration represented “a strong undercurrent of racism and xenophobia regarding religious minorities”. Dr Rizwaan Sabir, a lecturer at Liverpool John Moores University, attacked the moderate Muslim Qulliam Foundation which was being “used as a strategic asset by the British state to undermine political Islam at home and abroad”. [David Aaronovitch, 246 comments]

[TOP RATED COMMENT 129 votes] Most Muslims interviewed or expressing opinions seem to be in denial. In most cases they say of ISIS (or Al Qaeda, or Boko Harem, or ...) that they are not Muslims and therefore nothing to do with them. If they were to accept that these are bad Muslims then maybe they would start to take responsibility for fixing what is wrong within their religion.

Of course their response is exactly the same as Sunni Muslims say of Shia Muslims and vice versa. It is also the same as ISIS say about any Muslims who do not accept their interpretation of the Quran. In every case they justify their actions, or inaction, by claiming that other Muslims groups are "not Muslims" and of course identifying themselves as victims.

Until Muslims accept that Islam is a large part of the problem, they will never be part of the solution.

[2ND 101] Oh how I agree with this! Our wonderful liberal and intellectual approach to ideas and thinking is, with great subtlety, being abused. The Quilliam foundation has done an excellent job thus far in trying to deconstruct the process of Radicalisation.

It is trying to come up with constructive ideas, and is it repaid by the public voices in the Uk Muslim Community in a negative way. Maajid Mawaz has "sold out" is the common reaction you will hear in the Uk Muslim public forum. I once asked a friend of mine - a Muslim of Pakistani heritage who has bought up 4 kids here, and is a pretty regular kind of Uk Muslim Guy. A typical Dad trying to do a good job of raising his family. I asked him - why don't you say something at the mosque?

Express your worries about what is happening - how the more Political and Militant voices are being allowed to take an increasing role in Uk MUslim Identity. His reply utterly surprised me as I have known him for years, and know his unease about all that is going on at the moment.

He looked at me as if I was completely mad - and said he would not expose his Family to the 'hounding' in the Community that would come to them if he dared to 'put his head above the parapet' and question the path that the teachings of Islam were going down ( ie - a more Salafist orthodoxy).

After that I just knew that Government - or others such as the Quilliam foundation - would have to play a more decisive and leading role into what we allow to be debated or taught in the UK. Because if the moderate (for want of a better word) are too hesitate to step up to the plate in their Communities - there is no hope. Someone else has to do it.

[3RD 81] So, for Muslim women, says Dr Brown, 'their real problems were “discrimination, poverty and Islamophobia' (presumably all from non-Muslims )... and these then are worse than the difficulties presented by: segregation from men; not being allowed to work or be fully educated or follow certain careers; forced or arranged marriages and not being allowed to marry for love; FGM, often instigated or encouraged by older Muslim women; unequal treatment when it comes to divorce, custody and property issues; not to mention their enforced dress code, often very inappropriate and/or unhealthy attire for this country - all of course originating from within Islam, not outside it.

'Their real problems'?

[4TH 79] This stuff sends shivers down my spine. The right-thinking academics are a much worse problem than the Muslims. In the Cold War they were allies with the Soviet Union, now their allies are Islamist extremists: if the aim is not to bring down western, liberal society then I don't know what it is.

[5TH 77] The SOAS conference that you describe highlights a serious problem. It seems that Islamism enjoys the services of a body of apologists which is much larger than Fascism could ever assemble and possibly even larger than that enjoyed by Communism in its heyday. In one way, then, Islamism may be a bigger problem than earlier totalitarian ideologies. [The Times (£)] Read more

18 November 2015

Students Ban Liberal Muslim, Host CAGE Islamist On SAME DAY

An outspoken Muslim journalist who advocates a “sexual revolution” in the Islamic world has reportedly been “no platformed” by a Student Union (SU). The students deny this, claiming officers were “tired” and preferred “dialogue” to allowing her to speak alone.

Despite allegedly banning journalists Mona Eltahawy, London’s School of Oriental and African Studies (SOAS) is proudly hosting Asim Qureshi of the Salafist ‘human rights’ group CAGE tonight at an event called “Islamophobia and British values”.

.... The SU’s version of events was further undermined when “Co-President of Welfare and Campaigns” Tom King, tweeted: “Through this current situation, I absolutely defend our right to decline to invite people into our spaces.”

Many were less than convinced. The government’s extremism adviser Maajid Nawaz tweeted: “My alma-mater SOAS bans Mona Eltahawy who campaigns for Arab sexual revolution, yet allows pro-jihadists CAGE… Shameful ‘safe-space’ culture running rampant.” [Breitbart London] Read more

Muslim Council of Britain takes out advert condemning terrorists

The Muslim Council of Britain has taken out an advert in a national newspaper to condemn the Paris attacks – and reaffirm that terrorists do not represent in Islam.

The council, which represents more than 500 mosques and community groups across the nation, used a full-page ad in the Telegraph on Thursday to denounce so-called Islamic State and the “barbaric” attacks in the French capital which killed 129 people.

The group also sought to reiterate its commitment to “the values of pluralism and tolerance” and insist that the terrorists must not succeed in turning communities against each other. [Evening Standard] Read more

17 November 2015

Islamism, the Left and a plea to Labour MPs

Much of the Left has been eaten alive by Islamism. This truly regressive and oppressive political philosophy has all but destroyed a movement that once desired nothing less than the emancipation of the human race.

The campaigns for equality that were right and good and brave in the 1960s have been exploited to within an inch of their lives, and actually probably far beyond that, by a political movement that hates everything those campaigns were fighting for. Women’s rights, children’s rights, gay rights, free speech, rejection of religious power over our lives, integration, free expression, music, art, freedom, love: the defence of every one of them given up bit by bit by a Left which has ceased to be worthy of the name. [Nora Mulready] Read more

Mohammed Amin: It is not enough for Muslim organisations simply to condemn terrorism

.... What are you doing to:

Encourage British Muslims to join the police, the armed forces and the security services?

Teach young Muslims to treat Christians, Jews, Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, atheists etc as full equal members of society entitled to exactly the same level of respect as given to fellow Muslims?

Teach young Muslims that religious practice is a matter between the individual and God, and no Muslim has the right to denounce another for being “insufficiently Muslim” or worse still to contend that someone who self-describes as a Muslim is outside the religion? (This is known as “takfir”, is widely practised by ISIL and provides their religious justification for killing other people who self-describe as Muslims.) [ConservativeHome] Read more

'If you don't like this country, why the f*** did you come here?' Muslim man's impassioned speech decrying ISIS for trying to impose Sharia law on the West takes social media by storm

Video has emerged of an impassioned speech by a Muslim decrying ISIS terrorists for trying to impose Sharia law on the West.

The man launches in to a three-minute tirade and lashes out at violent extremists saying: 'If you don't like this country, why the f*** did you come?'.

The video has been widely shared online after gunmen murdered 129 people in Paris in a wave of terror attacks in Paris.

The unnamed man, believed to live in the UK, tells the camera: 'The question is, do you have the right to kill? F*** you, you don't.

'If you don't like this country, why the f*** do you come? If you do not have respect for this country, why the f*** do you come?

'You came, you know why, because you believed the judiciary here gives you protection, because the laws here give you protection, because the economy here makes you flourish. Why the f*** did you come otherwise? [1384 comments]

[TOP RATED COMMENT 19605 votes] Brilliant. But we need more Muslims to openly condemn these atrocities .

[2ND 12740] Bravo that man!

[3RD 10122] Good to see and hear, some common sense.

[4TH 9401] Respect to him. He has hit the nail right on the head.

[5TH 5823] We need much much more of this, it's called the truth. Although PC idiots don't let us say it. [Daily Mail] Read more

The Guardian view on defeating Isis: winning hearts and minds

Like all jihadi terror movements, Isis seeks to foment division, to sort the world into supporters and the rest. This is a violent campaign of disruption intended to destroy multiculturalism wherever it exists. With fear and terror Isis intends to sow mistrust and hatred between communities.

.... To call Islam “a religion of peace” can appear to be a crude attempt to manipulate both audiences at once. Similarly, the attempt to preach “British values”: schools should of course teach tolerance and open-mindedness, but this is done by example and by culture, not with slogans. And the people to show that Islam can enrich British values are Muslims themselves, in their ordinary lives.

They won’t do so because they are hectored to but because they identify the peace and charity that they actually practise both with Britain and with Islam. Without compromising core values of human rights and equality, there needs to be a better-recognised space for faith communities in secular society. This year, a handful of primary schools in east London banned fasting during Ramadan, inappropriate and unnecessary since young children are not expected to fast.

Finally, most problematic is the need to recognise that some foreign policy decisions – whether of omission or commission – shape Muslim opinion. That does not necessarily mean making different decisions, but it does mean greater awareness. It means recognising that the best weapon against the jihadis, the one they fear the most, is solidarity. [299 comments]

[TOP RATED COMMENT 192 votes] More of the usual about Muslim feelings of alienation and lack of inclusion.

Why don't the Sikh, Hindu or Chinese communities in the West complain about underachievement at schools, lack of jobs, or not having a voice in government?

Why do we not have to deal with such extremism in those communities?

Pigheaded western policies in the Muslin world make the problem much worse than it would otherwise be, but that doesn't distract from the fact that there is currently an extreme rot eating away at the heart of Islam itself.

Perhaps part of the solution would be to recognize the cancer emanating from Saudi Arabia, and start treating that vile nation as the horror that it is?

[2ND 161] "fomenting division"

And the biggest part of that is religion. Yet faith schools are not only allowed, but positively welcomed.

Weirdly enough, I remember when there was some effort to get all kids in Northern Ireland to at least go to the same schools as one another, regardless of sect.

So, how about rule 1: NO religious education in ANY school? ALL kids, regardless of religion of their parents, to go to a state, secular school?

[3RD 156] "But it also means recognising that Muslim communities are both the poorest and the least participant in public life."

But I thought Jaywick near Clacton was the most deprived area in the UK; and there are certainly ex-mining towns in the Welsh valleys that I know of that are poor and deprived with very little participation in public life.

‘Too often to be a Muslim means underachievement at school, difficulty in finding a job, a struggle for promotion...’

And I thought it was white boys that were lagging behind in school these days.

Think again, Guardian.

[4TH 123] We are so bad in the west towards Muslim youth that we force them to go to Syria where they glorify in the killing of their fellow Muslims and raping Yazidi children. Where they seek to destroy cultures and ethic groups that have been in existence for thousands of years.

Total liberal lefty crap.

Would the Guardian write a similar editorial about the Waffen SS? On second thoughts they probably would.

[5TH 116] Wow - just when you thought the Guardian's obsession with identity politics couldn't make it get things more wrong regarding radical Islam, along comes this article.

To highlight one of its many, many failings: calling for a greater emphasis on faith communities?? Just incredible...

[6TH 112] No surprise that the guardians solution to terrorism is more multi culturalism and more refugees.

I love different cultures and races but even the bloody Germans admit that multi culturalism has been a massive failure that has caused massive problems (not least the ones in Paris).

This spits in the face of Guardian orthodoxy but the most disadvantaged people in this country are poor, white and male. (you will never hear anything from the Guardian about concern for them).

If this is about disaffected youth why are the poor white people not opening up on night clubs with automatic weapons?

If this is about cultural differences why are there no Polish / Sikh / Hindu terrorists in the UK?

The problem is medieval religions and the fucked up beliefs and people that it attracts.

We can start by eliminating state supported faith schools.

[7TH 109] You are talking to the wrong audience, Guardian.

You ought to have been shouting about solidarity in mosques, in madrassas, in Muslim community centres from decades ago.

Instead you chose to promote multiculturalism. All that has done has given (some) Muslims the perfect excuse to back away from wider society, to self-segregate.

And look what the result has been. Mini versions of the cultures they left behind.

Could things have gone any more wrong?

[8TH 105] A well meaning article. Unfortunately misguided and contradictory.

Premise of the author - Muslims feel disenfranchised because they underachieve school and subsequently the job market.

Apart from contradicting this papers view that we should welcome Islamic immigration (why would you want underachievers even if their culture didn't promote mysoginy, homophobia and the values of a 7th century warlord) it actually reinforces the view that Islamic culture is not compatible with learning and economic advancement ( unlike that of other "alien" cultures like Chinese, Hindus, Sikhs or even Africans.

If it were just underachievement at school and in the workplace Muslims would be like Roma.

At worst an inconvenience, and at best a worthy cause to transform into functioning Europeans.

[9TH 105] Typical guardian tripe. Stating primary schools banning fasting was unnecessary as children arent expected to fast. Its exactly because muslims were forcing their children to fast that schools banned it. Probably the same 25% of families who sympathise with the charlie hebdo attacks. [Guardian Cif] Read more

Paris attacks: The integration of immigrants through education is paramount

.... In these dark days following Friday’s attack it is hard to start examining how such brutal atrocities could take place at the hands of French citizens. There can surely be no simple answer. Yet for those with knowledge of the banlieues, the OECD’s data will add fuel to the notion that communities in some French cities are horribly fractured, tempting hopeless men to a life of religious extremism.

Efforts here to encourage integration might offer lessons to the French government in the years ahead. But it is vital, too, that political leaders in the UK remain committed to policies that promote cohesion. This week we may all be French, but next week we will all be British again. It is vital that everyone living in this country feels like they belong.

[TOP RATED COMMENT] Written as someone who has never taken a bus up the Edgware road and looked out of the window.

Muslims don't integrate. It wouldn't matter if we threw a street party for them every bloody weekend - they still wouldn't come.

What a tasteless article coming so soon after the slaughter of so many innocents in Paris. It's always the fault of the countries who welcomed these people, gave them opportunities they did not have in their own countries and which other immigrants have grabbed with open arms and made better lives for themselves.

It's never the fault of the insular, supremacist religio-tribal ideology that frowns on mixing with the infidels and taking up their ways that throws up a maladjusted generation who are then convinced that their short-comings are because of discrimination by the larger society and indulge in the kind of slaughter and mayhem that is unfathomable to everyone else. Give it a break.

[ANOTHER] Good luck with that one - these people (Islamists) don't do integration - it against their religion - the Indy's editorial staff need to read the Qur'an! It's insufficient to accept Imams and Clerics quoting certain verses of their Book to paint Islamists in a favourable light - when there are 109 verses calling for the destruction of the very people you propose they integrate with?

[ANOTHER] 'The integration of immigrants through education is paramount'. Trouble is that many UK universities are a hot bed for radicalisation. The 'academic left' has an awful lot to answer for.

[ANOTHER] You mean like the thoroughly integrated and educated Bilal Abdullah, British born, qualified doctor and still he attempted to kill and maim when he rammed Glasgow airport.

Sorry but the one thing that links these attacks is not the attackers education, wealth or social position.

It is their faith which glorifies violence.

[ANOTHER] The other is Anjem Choudary - a fully qualified lawyer minted from the English legal institution and anow a radical Islamic preacher of dissent.

No, how successful has integration of the last 30 years been?

Its foolish to ignore cultural faultlines and be taken by politicians that speak for votes. You need to have tough enforceable laws to deal with deviants in society which would include removal and deportation.

[ANOTHER] Ban all Deobandi and Salafist Madrassas and mosques. Islamic fundamentalism has no place in our society. [The Independent] Read more